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Snooth User: zufrieden

the Fabulous 2016 Bordeaux Vintage

Posted by zufrieden, Oct 11, 2019.

The amount of product available from this vintage in the Gironde Basin is amazing and needs further (in depth) discussion.  I will await an inaugural entry by other members, but will add information by Sunday, October 13th if nothing is added.  In my lifetime, only the 2005, 2009 and 2010 merit any real comparison to this vintage.


Reply by jackwerickson, Oct 12, 2019.

Look forward to your observations 

Reply by vin0vin0, Oct 12, 2019.

Z, I'm pretty ignorant with respect to Bordeaux but really want to learn, hoping to receive some awesome insight.

Reply by zufrieden, Oct 12, 2019.

I have posted about ten reviews on the site, but I will consolidate and comment in more detail tomorrow sometime.  In the meantime, don't hold back if you are able to find any examples of the 2016's - even those from regular Bordeaux properties.


Reply by zufrieden, Oct 14, 2019.

There is a lot of information on this vintage available at the usual download locations - particularly if you have accounts (I avoid this in most cases as I hate advertising).  Having said this, i can say that I have not had a poor example from this Bordeaux vintage - which is either merely serendipitous or an excellent indicator of the quality (assuming, of course, that you trust my judgment).  

If you have deep pockets and can squeeze out that last 5% of quality that is a rough return for spending an additional 50-3000 dollars per bottle (on average, mind, this is no science), then I recommend you spend about 100 to 150 US on the more reasonably priced and excellent growths from the Haut-Medoc, Graves, Pessac-Leognan, St.-Emilion and Pomerol.  Now, you don't need to do this to get that 95-98% (and sometimes more) of the available epicurean  enjoyment, but if money is not such an option, try something like Langoa-Barton (St.-Julien), Domain de Chevalier (Pessac-Leognan), Gruaud-Larose (St.-Julian), Grand-Puy-Lacoste (Pauillac), Chateau le Gay (Pomerol), or Canon la Gaffeliere (St.-Emilion).  Of course, there are many, many more worthy of gracing your lips (no doubt), and sometimes much more expensive (I ignore the Lafites or Ausones and their ilk as these are priced at levels that might try your sense of moral obligation in terms of the best use of your money... or perhaps not).

But if you are in the mindset of a wealthy barber, schoolteacher or other prudent person used to value and saving money, you might consider something from the following list of my personal favourites (none of which are classified growths from the Haut-Medoc):

Larrivaux (Haut-Medoc)
Lannessan (Haut-Medoc)
D’Escurac (Medoc)
Beaumont (Haut-Medoc)
Croix-Mouton (Bordeaux Superieur)
Reynon (Cadillac - Cotes de Bordeaux)
Malescasse (Haut-Medoc)
Rahoul (Pessac-Leognan) – good white also
Ferran (Pessac-Leognan) – good white also
Carignan (Cadillac- Cotes de Bordeaux)
Clos Floridene (Pessac-Leognan) – good white also
Vielle Cure (Fronsac)
De France (Pessac-Leognan) – good white also
La Garde (Pessac-Leognan) – good white also


These are some of the better buys out there, and availability for at least a few of them should not prove an overwhelming issue.  If you want more detail on some of the above, search  snooth for reviews (mostly mine at this point of site decripitude and spam colonization).
Good hunting!


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